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This conversation was hosted by Chella Ward as part of the Open University’s Islamophobia Awareness Month events in 2026. Salman Sayyid and AbdoolKarim Vakil join Chella to discuss their longstanding work towards a people’s definition of ‘Islamophobia’. Here they explain that Islamophobia is a kind of racism, and discuss what work a definition can do to change the social contract and work towards a fairer society. They draw on their numerous books and articles, as well as on the practical work they did as part of the team behind the definition of Islamophobia drafted by the All Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslims, and accepted by universities, councils and civil society organisations across the political spectrum.
Claudia Radiven is a Diamond Jubilee Lecturer in Sociology and Social Policy at the University of Leeds
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