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About Kevin Lindsay

Kevin Lindsay is a 25+ year Silicon Valley software product strategist and marketer, who developed a passion for systems thinking and cybernetics while he was a graduate student in transformative leadership at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS). Kevin is interested in complexity and paradox, and the power of systems thinking to help us understand and tackle the big messes humanity created and is now dealing with. Kevin has been an NBN host since July 2020.
"What is the pattern that connects the crab to the lobster and the primrose to the orchid, and all of them to me, and me to you?" - Gregory Bateson

NBN Episodes hosted by Kevin:

Systems and Cybernetics January 29, 2023

Design Journeys Through Complex Systems

Practice Tools for Systemic Design

Peter Jones and Kristel van Ael

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
As I slowly settle into 2023 — reflecting on the blur that was 2022 — I can’t help but think about the complex problems (aka big messes!) we face at …
Systems and Cybernetics September 12, 2022

Systems Inspired Leadership

How to Tap Collective Wisdom to Navigate Change, Enhance Agility, an Foster Collaboration

Frank Uit de Weerd and Marita Fridjhon

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
Listeners who have tuned in to my most recent episodes here on Systems and Cybernetics will be familiar with what seems be a current running theme. So, as I grapple …
Systems and Cybernetics August 17, 2022

Impact Networks

Creating Connection, Sparking Collaboration, and Catalyzing Systemic Change

David Ehrlichman

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
I recently caught up with the very busy David Erlichman, co-founder and coordinator of the Converge network (www.converge.net), about his fantastic book Impact Networks: Creating Connection, Sparking Collaboration, and Catalyzing Systemic Change (Berrett-Koehler …
Systems and Cybernetics July 25, 2022

Indirect Work

A Regenerative Change Theory for Businesses, Communities, Institutions and Humans

Carol Sanford

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
I recently got a chance to talk to Carol Sanford about her newest book Indirect Work: A Regenerative Change Theory for Businesses, Communities, Institutions and Humans. Carol Sanford is a …
Systems and Cybernetics April 1, 2022

Metamodernity

Meaning and Hope in a Complex World

Lene Andersen

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
So what is metamodernity you may ask, and what does it have to do with systems thinking and cybernetics? Well, I recently had a chance to find out for …
Systems and Cybernetics February 28, 2022

Becoming Gaia

On the Threshold of Planetary Initiation

Sean Kelly

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
In this episode I had the pleasure of speaking with Sean Kelly, professor of Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), about his 2021 book …
Systems and Cybernetics February 8, 2022

Patterns of Connection

Essential Essays from Five Decades

Fritjof Capra

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
Welcome to the first Systems and Cybernetics episode of 2022! After a short break over the holidays to rest and spend time with family (and, of course, read!), it’s time …
Systems and Cybernetics December 14, 2021

The Web of Meaning

Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find our Place in the Universe

Jeremy Lent

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
In this episode of Systems and Cybernetics I had the pleasure of spending an hour with Jeremy Lent, talking with him about his newest book The Web of Meaning: Integrating …
Systems and Cybernetics November 19, 2021

Buddhist and Taoist Systems Thinking

The Natural Path to Sustainable Transformation

Josep M. Coll

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
I recently sat down with Josep M. Coll to discuss his new book Buddhist and Taoist Systems Thinking: The Natural Path to Sustainable Transformation (Routledge, 2021). This book is the latest …
Systems and Cybernetics September 27, 2021

Stafford Beer

The Father of Management Cybernetics

Vanilla Beer and Allenna Leonard

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
In this episode I am in conversation with artist and author Vanilla Beer about her 2019 book Stafford Beer: The Father of Management Cybernetics. While he got his start in …
Systems and Cybernetics September 1, 2021

Systems Thinkers

Magnus Ramage and Karen Shipp

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
In this episode I spoke with Magnus Ramage, co-author of Systems Thinkers (Springer, 2020). This second edition provides an update to Ramage’s and co-author Karen Shipp’s earlier exploration, and presents an enlightening—often …
Systems and Cybernetics July 27, 2021

Systems Approaches to Making Change: A Practical Guide

Martin Reynolds and Sue Holwell

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
Practitioners from all professional domains are increasingly confronted with incidences of systemic failure, yet poorly equipped with appropriate tools and know-how for understanding such failure, and the making of systemic …
Systems and Cybernetics June 17, 2021

Sand Talk

How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World

Tyson Yunkaporta

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
Although it is not described as such anywhere in the book, Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World (HarperOne, 2021) is indeed a systems-thinking book—one that offers a much-needed fresh …
Systems and Cybernetics March 22, 2021

Managing Creativity

A Systems Thinking Journey

José-Rodrigo Córdoba-Pachón

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
For over a century, creativity has unfolded as a valuable field of knowledge. Emerging from disciplines like psychology, management and education, the field of creativity is making strides in others …
Systems and Cybernetics February 8, 2021

The Hidden Power of Systems Thinking

Governance in a Climate Emergency

Ray Ison and Ed Straw

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
The Hidden Power of Systems Thinking: Governance in Climate Emergency (Routledge, 2020) is a persuasive, lively book that shows how systems thinking can be harnessed to effect profound, complex change.  …
Systems and Cybernetics December 16, 2020

Small Arcs of Larger Circles

Framing Through Other Patterns

Nora Bateson

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
“To be a participant in a complex system is to desire to be both lost and found in the interrelationships between people, nature and ideas.” Nora Bateson writes these words …
Systems and Cybernetics November 4, 2020

Systems Thinking for a Turbulent World

A Search for New Perspectives (Part 2)

Anthony Hodgson

Hosted by Kevin Lindsay
This is the second episode of a two-part conversation with Hodgson, and in it we pick up our conversation on anticipatory systems and the role they play in ‘decision integrity’ …