About Jason Pack

NBN Episodes hosted by Jason:

Why can’t the US justice system hold the powerful to account?

November 10, 2025

Why can’t the US justice system hold the powerful to account?

Elie Honig
Hosted by Jason Pack

In institutional design, the US justice system is more independent than its European counterparts. Even though the US President selects his Attorney G…

Why Spying is Vital in Our Age of Disorder

August 25, 2025

Why Spying is Vital in Our Age of Disorder

Hosted by Jason Pack

For as long as there’s been wars and diplomacy, there have been spies. Some call it the world’s second oldest profession. But from their peak during t…

Is International Diplomacy Dead?

July 28, 2025

Is International Diplomacy Dead?

Stephanie Williams
Hosted by Jason Pack

The UN is demonstrably powerless in Gaza; unable to facilitate elections in Libya; and blocked by Russia from doing anything meaningful on major issue…

Can NATO Survive? With Sten Rynning

June 17, 2025

Can NATO Survive?

Sten Rynning
Hosted by Jason Pack

At different engagements throughout the month, NATO allies will meet in Brussels and the Hague to discuss Ukraine and defense spending – with Trump’s …

Could Nationalism Save Germany?

June 2, 2025

Could Nationalism Save Germany?

Will Wilkes
Hosted by Jason Pack

With Friedrich Merz officially at the helm, Germany is entering a new era. But with the AfD breathing down his neck – the country is actually more int…

The Danger of Complete Anarchy with Robert Kaplan

May 20, 2025

The Danger of Complete Anarchy

Robert Kaplan
Hosted by Jason Pack

Disorder is a show where we look for historical parallels to better understand our current age of Global Enduring Disorder… It is also a show where on…

How to Combat Extreme Ideas with Julia Ebner (Part 2)

March 25, 2025

How to Combat Extreme Ideas (Part 2)

Julia Ebner
Hosted by Jason Pack

This is the second part of a two-part interview with Julia Ebner -- the princess of extremist infiltration, the queen of counter radicalization, and a…

The Hidden Logic of Extremist Conspiracy Theories (Part 1)

March 19, 2025

The Hidden Logic of Extremist Conspiracy Theories (Part 1)

Julia Ebner
Hosted by Jason Pack

Extremist ideologies and the conspiracy vehicles that carry them are now heard throughout mainstream social and political discourse. Whether it’s Trum…

Neoliberalism: The Ultimate Disorderer? With George Monbiot

March 11, 2025

Neoliberalism: The Ultimate Disorderer?

George Monbiot
Hosted by Jason Pack

Forget Christianity, Judaism, New Age Spirituality, and Buddhism, a new type of religion drives 21st century Western thought. It goes by the shadowy n…

Can Sanctions help us Order the Disorder?

October 17, 2024

Can Sanctions help us Order the Disorder?

Stephanie Baker
Hosted by Jason Pack

Following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the West initiated the most comprehensive economic war in human history. The US, EU, and UK…

Former Armenian President Sarkissian: Can a Club of Small States Order the Disorder? (Part 2)

September 3, 2024

Former Armenian President Sarkissian: Can a Club of Small States Order the Disorder? (Part 2)

Armen Sarkissian
Hosted by Jason Pack

Small states like Qatar, Ireland, Singapore, Jordan, and Botswana are thriving in our disordered world. They’re smart, agile, and are implementing nov…

Nationalism – Can it be reclaimed for Order? (Part 2)

September 3, 2024

Nationalism – Can it be reclaimed for Order? (Part 2)

Harvey Whitehouse
Hosted by Jason Pack

Harvey Whitehouse, author of Inheritance: The Evolutionary Origins of the Modern World, rejoins Jason Pack for part 2 of their discussion. The duo dis…

Does our biology facilitate our Global Disorder? (Part 1)

August 27, 2024

Does our biology facilitate our Global Disorder? (Part 1)

Harvey Whitehouse
Hosted by Jason Pack

Over the last two decades the seemingly ‘connecting’ phenomena of globalization and the internet have not made human communities more united. Seemingl…

Could a new global institution help Order the Disorder? (Part 2)

August 6, 2024

Could a new global institution help Order the Disorder? (Part 2)

Jamie Metzl
Hosted by Jason Pack

In part 2 of our discussion with Jamie Metzl, author of Superconvergence: How the Genetics, Biotech, and AI Revolutions Will Transform our Lives, Work…

Will the Burgeoning Bioeconomy be a force for Order or for Disorder? (Part 1)

July 30, 2024

Will the Burgeoning Bioeconomy be a force for Order or for Disorder? (Part 1)

Jamie Metzl
Hosted by Jason Pack

Advanced biotech (CRISPR gene editing, gene drives, personalized medicine) could be the most Disordering technology ever invented. Techniques like gen…

Is Britain in the Moral Superiority Industry? (Part 2)

June 11, 2024

Is Britain in the Moral Superiority Industry? (Part 2)

Tom Burgis
Hosted by Jason Pack

The sordid tale of Tory mega donor, Mohamed Amersi, and his libel suit against Charlotte Leslie was an attempt to turn money into control over the tru…

Are Corruption and Kleptocracy at the very heart of the Enduring Disorder? (Part 1)

June 11, 2024

Are Corruption and Kleptocracy at the very heart of the Enduring Disorder? (Part 1)

Tom Burgis and Alexandra Hall Hall
Hosted by Jason Pack

Corruption, in one form or another, is as old as civilization. As long as there have been governmental authorities, private businesspeople have foun…

Former Armenian President Sarkissian on Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day (Part 1)

April 23, 2024

Former Armenian President Sarkissian on Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day (Part 1)

Armen Sarkissian
Hosted by Jason Pack

April 24th marks Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day, but the tragic Ottoman massacres of Armenians of over a century ago have been largely forgotten in…

Is there Order in the universe? Or are we all the playthings of chance?

March 26, 2024

Is there Order in the universe? Or are we all the playthings of chance?

Brian Klaas
Hosted by Jason Pack

Can we ever truly achieve Order in the international system? Or is life itself just a deterministic jumble of uncontrollable events? Do humans crave o…

Dirty money is everywhere, as Wall St and St Petersburg are on the same page

October 17, 2023

Dirty money is everywhere, as Wall St and St Petersburg are on the same page

Peter Geoghegan and Tena Prelec
Hosted by Jason Pack

From London to Miami, illicit cash has been flowing through the West’s financial systems. Coordination failures have allowed disruptors like Russia to…

The Rise of the Neo-Populists

September 20, 2023

The Rise of the Neo-Populists

Sean Wilentz and Anne Applebaum
Hosted by Jason Pack

Over the past few decades leaders like Trump, Orban, and Bolsonaro have ridden a wave of popular outrage to rise to power. But what came first: the Ne…